Xbox 360 Pricing and Details Blowout

damn

Can't wait...that $400 one sounds like a good deal to me

I'll be getting the $399.99 package. Without the harddrive, its not an xbox. I need the full experiance. Whats the date now?

Holy shit, I'm in love....Cannot wait to drop all that $$$$ on that monster!!!

WOW!. I cannot wait to get my grubby little hands on that sexy machine. The only gripe I have is that why do they keep using composite cables for HDTV? Why not use true HD cable like DVI or HDMI. Much better quality and alot less cables. But besides that....oops. I wet my pants thinking about it again.

Everything the Xbox 1 did right microsoft is screwing up this time, if the hard drive isn't standard out of the box equipment for all Xbox 360's it might as well not be there for anyone because developers wont use it for anything other than MAYBE a game save option, wellcome back memory cards, guess we didn't buy enough of them for Xbox 1. And the price point for the "GOOD" bundle is way to high, look at the history of consoles that launched at over $299.99 US. You can find them by searching google for "failed consoles".

I hate Sony, so now what do I do? Guess I'm out of gaming for this round, at lease until Microsoft does some scrambling to fix this mess about 6 months after launch...

$400 model seems complete.

Still uncertain about the HD-DVD add-on.

Not to mention the whole DVD-ROM at launch, HD-DVD later with no plan for the early addopters to get the up grade rendering Microsofts most loyal fans screwed again? Remember the first Xboxes with the Thompson drive then later the vastly superior Panasonic and even more superior Samsung drives...

Looks like I will be Ponying up 400 Beans + tax

This is a huge let down... 99.99 USD bucks for a wireless adapter, 62 for a control and battery pak... come off it... what a huge let down the only thing the 360 had going for it was that the HDD was going to be standard... this is a shovel full of BS from MS....

Love how they include the 20 dollar face plate... come on that is like buying a car and saying the hood is included....come off it...

Sorry MS you lost a customer...

Come on guys, you only pay $100 more then the original xbox. $399 full packackages for a next generation console is a steal. I'm so excited about this. Just think about it. This is a next gen console with highend new technologies you are buying, not an old school obsolete type of sysytem. I'm not blaming them for charging $100 more, I know I will enjoy and experiencing all the new technologies they put into it, and the games I'm sure will be stunning looking or at least better then the old school consoles like xbox, ps2, I won't be surprise if it's even better then the ps3. If you still think it's too expensive, maybe you're behind in technology.

Seriously wtf, all everyone does is complain and complain (the price is to high, the Hard Drive isn't standard etc....) I mean if they gave this system away for free you jerkoffs would find something to complain about. Next when they do confirm the games are going to be $59.99 you'll start complaining about that. Join Gamefly and rent them for a monthly fee if you do not want to spend all that money on 1 game. You really thought this system was going to be fully loaded at a price tag of $299.99, give me a break. The PS3 (STANDARD) is projected to cost $400.00-$450.00!!! Screw backwards compatibility too. I do not want to play my old Xbox games on a system that's supposed to be the Future of Gaming. I'll rev up my old Xbox to play those games again. Here is a theory for all you people complaining about the $399.99 price tag:

Opition 1:
If you already have it reserved go to gamestop, eb games or wherever and put down the $10.00-$20.00 each week, every other week etc until it launches in November. (Assuming it does) That way you final balance will be smaller and oh NO you maybe able to afford that game you wanted too!!!

Opition 2:
Open up a savings account at your nearest bank. Continue to deposit as much money as you can up until the 360's release. When the day comes take the money out and buy your new Xbox360...

Holy shit it's a miracle, you can honestly afford this system!!!!

cant... stop... drooling....

the $399 vesion looks like a deal but you still can forget about the free online gaming so the thing is a great deal.

Yeah this does look and sound good but is the price for the uk going to be the same? i dont wanna pay more than £300

Online isnt free budy. Thats most likely an extra 50 maybe even 60 bucks.

Not having the HDD standard is @!*%ing outrageous!!! and to show my seriousness I'm going to use my $50 Xbox360 reservation to buy a Nintendo DS or a PSP *vary pissed off*

Oh dear... : (

Two questions.....how does the silver package that comes in the box work.....and second will the games be less quality since MS told game developers to create games with the possibilty of not all people owning a hard drive?

And lastly to people like NeedTheBox and all that....I do agree with saving up the money and all of that but where our opinions differ is about people "complaining". Well if they origionally said that there would be a hard drive and especially there would be a WIRELESS CONTROLLER with every STANDARD package, it is kinda of a slap in the face that the lower priced console doesnt have both of these PROMISED things. Yes the Premium is a way better buy....isnt one of the main reasons for getting the xbox360 over the ps3 the price.......but anyway a promise is your word and in this case microsoft didnt keep its full word......

PS: Premium is still a really good price though considering what you get with it

EDS,

As a consumer can you really trust a company's promise? As soon as I heard that I knew it was bs. No way would they be able to make a profit or gain market shares in the Console Market by doing giving you all that at a list price of $299.99. Half of these people that write on this board do not look at it from a logic standpoint. The premium package is clearly geared towards Hardcore gamers. The standard is for people who want to enjoy the Next-Gen console without all the other perks. The games will not be less quaility as the same core processor etc, will be the same in each version of the Xbox 360. The harddrive is clearly to enjoy mp3's, movie clips things of that nature. The silver package allows you to communicate with friends over Live, voice chat, text messaging but does not allow you to play your games over the Xbox Live network. If you already have an Xbox Live account then you will just need to re-enter all your info into your new Xbox360. (Your membership continues, you do not have to pay a dime till your old membership expires.)

MEAN WHITE & GREEN NEXT-GEN CONSOLE MACHINE XBOX360

LOL

Nah, the XBL service shouldnt been included period, it couldve cut the cost of the better buy. It shouldve stayed separate from everything else,like it was for the fIrst Xbox. However this does seem like a mixed bag of chips to me. You have good things with this bundle ,but it wouldnt make sense to get it if you got the other one and bought stuff for it,or vice versa. Its sorta like building a PC. However, if you can get over the fact that you would need the Hard Disc for the XBL Silver stuff and loads of other junk, its still at its heart a gaming machine and I dont feel like its a TOTAL letdown. So if you add up your chips. it would seem that I would plunk the change down for a Hard Disc IF i went with the core system. The core system shouldve costed about $200(USD), its a more cosumer friendly price, but apparently we didnt make the machine. The HD/VGA AV cable opens the possibility to play Xbox360 games on our kool PC monitors and flat panel LCD screens with VGA hookup. Whomever talks trash about XBL not being free obviously never had it....they just shouldnt have included XBL in a package..it has enough stuff by itself to run up the price. I more than likely will miss the launch of the system, but I could possibly end up getting the Premium Edition Xbox. But not having the HD standard wasnt a bright idea, whomever idea it was.

PS. Project: I think that both the DS and PSP costs a little more than $50 bucks dude.

So basically the $400 version comes with everything we have expected, and the $300 version comes with a nice package of dissapointment. I hope MS knows what they are doing by making that 20 gig hard drive an accessory....but since when is a 20 gig hard drive $100? Should I even ask what the 40 gig will cost? COME ON!!

if devs are making games without using the hard drive im gonna start practicing playing with a mouse and keyboard....
but then again the premium comes with the remote!!!
no getting up off the couch to turn on the xbox is what'll win me over in the long run

that and the "stylish chill" faceplate...
*bashes head against wall until falling into a coma*

ok...one more thing
blueblaster have no fear, it says up there that the premium package is 280 pounds

Well, I think the $400 package is going for the hardcore games, while the cheaper ones are going for the frst time video game players, or just casual owners. They hope that eventually they will want to upgrade anyway, so they will eventually buy all of the accessories.

Just a way for Microsoft to make more money. Hopefully that transfers into amazing features, and better games. Go 360

but in the uk we've had to pay £299.99, which back when the xbox and ps2 were released was about $450, and £279.99 is $505.47, considerably more than $399.99, so don't feel so let down. we have to deal with this every 4 years.

For the good bundle here in Canada it is 486.00 a controller with bater pak works out to 75 bucks and that is all without taxes don't for get them it is 15% PST/GST here... so mates
No HDD Standard witch is the best thing it had going for it and I am really pissed it is not there... I will not get the 360... my money will go to Sony and Nintendo... I have an Xbox and over 50 games... but it is to much money for to little... come off it 99.99 USD for a wireless adapter that is 135 here with taxes...

MS mess up large and they will pay for it... sorry this system is too weak for the price...

Are HD-AV cable compatable with STDV? I don't have a HDTV, but I want the xbox360 and a hard drive. If I had to get a $299.99 console then, and a $100 HD, that would leave me at the premium price without the extra accessories. I think MS should have made a core console with the hard drive and without live accessories at about $339.99. I'm not planning on using Live, so all the excess accessories don't really make the premium package a good deal to me. Someone please answer my question about HD AV cables

Yes it will work on both SD and HD tv's

I was going to buy it, I was the first person in my city to buy an xbox. I had to buy another because my crappy dvd-drive died. I have 82 games i counted yesterday. I don't want to give my money to sony or nintendo so I am going to wait this console war out possibly.

aight sounds good, but what about live service? how much that gonna kill my wallet?

aight sounds good, but what about live service? how much that gonna kill my wallet?

i preordered will i get a premium or core package?

whatever you want you already reserved i put 180 and ill just put the rest later, danm you microsoft this better be a one hell of a system cus i overdid my self buying the psp, now this, cmon microsoft please dont let me down, cus im plaining on owning only one system not ps3 beacause sony loves to milk my ass with other sh*** to buy. hope you guys get enough money so ican see you on xbox live, cheers

Either Games will run like shit on the core model or they wont be at their full potential with the HDD. Games have to be set up a certain way to allow for worth while streaming from the disk.

Oh yeah and Mad Gamer 2: I said I would use the money to buy a DS or PSP, I didn't say that was all the money I had. Did you think I was going to try to walk out of the stor with a 360 with only a $50 resevation?

well now it's official... I am now going to be a PC only guy from now on.. they f*cked around so much with the secrecy I knew some bullshit would be pulled out at the last second.. I probably will get a revolution once it comes out but for the mean time.. pc gaming for me..

I wish there was an edit button on here, I didn't mean to sound so sarcastic to Mad Gamer.

yeah thats the same reason why i dont play pc games as much or if i do i go to cafe because i was tired of paying so much for upgrades

LOL@Project.........just as long as you got Nintendogs for DS..lol No offense taken dude, I feel most frustration here is building up against MS for not making the 'core' system with a smaller HD hard disc. That was rather stupid IMO. 8GB's was enough for the first Xbox, why didnt they just charge $299 for a simple system with a smaller HDD. Peter Moore guys....dont listen to him, listen to J Allard.

I hope Interact and Pelican gets f'n busy right now, I may need their WONDERFUL 3rd party peripherals..lol !!

at $299 you're not getting a hard drive at all...

What the *&^% are all you complaning about???!!!

What the *&^% are all you complaning about???!!! That is a DAMM good deal!!! All you guys do is complain!!! It is just like anything else you buy!!! Just like in a car...if you want leather seats...you pay more!!! Jesus!!! In the premimium package you get over 400$ worth of extras for only 100$ more than the standerd version!!! That is a DAMM good deal!!! And If you can complain about that...then you ar not a wize shopper!!! If you want the features....you have to pay for them!!!

your absolutely right that the 400 dollar comes with a lot more than 100 dollars worth of xtras,but is the price of the xtras really what the price should be? not for me, the controller shoudnt be 50 it should be 40 tops, the HD cables should allready of @!*%en with it since they are so proud of HD on the 360, the HDD is of course not worth 100, and what really pushes my buttons is the wireless network crap, that shoudlnt be 100, microsoft knows this, why do you think microsoft is soooooo confident on the 400 dollar models, because the fraeaken memory card will have to be baughten anyways making you spend around the same price,but the point is that they have now striped down the 360 to make two versions which is BS. but i guess you cant do anything about it, im still getting the 400. hopefully you guys get that also. hopefully its a great system though

It isnt about the cost of the system. People want to KNOW for a fact that the game features are not going to suck because 5% of the broke ass gamers didnt want to shell out for a HD. They should have either had one price point or 2 with both having a HD..... It is as simple as that......

I can wait for the system to come out...im getting the full deal of 360! But I can agree with some...HD...Hard drive should be standerd...but Im not worring about that...I am all reddy to be blown away!!! I even reserved a spot on my entertainment center...! I wonder what the face plate will look like? Oh...well...I am going to fork up for everything! It is too good a deal...

the face plate is the actual 360 plate attached lol, its like saying that im selling a car with a motor included

About the HD issue...

We are gamers, and that mean that we pay $1200 for a couple of video cards, $1000 for the fastest CPU (at least for one month...), huge HD tv's and, of course, $400 for a console with a hard drive.

We don't want the second best, we want the state of the art in everything asociated with electronic entretainment.

The thing is, though, that we are just not enough.

MS has made it point clear about reaching bigger audiences, and this is just perfect in order to achieve that.

First, for the people worried about caching, it's not big deal, I mean programers are smart enough to manage that. A hard drive is detected, Great, let's do some caching! No HD detected... well youll have to wait... BIG DEAL!!!

And about that other features... IRRELEVANT!!!

Why?

Because the core system is not aimed to gamers, is not for us, is for the casual gamer, the one who sees a new gadget and buy it, the one who is worried about its expenses, the one who is entering in the gaming world, the one who doesn't have enough money and will get the HD later, the one whose parents say "400 is too much for a videogame".

This people are going to see the graphics, the price, the games, the price, the expandibility and the price, and are much likely to give the 360 a try. Period. They won't care about the missing features or the longer loading times, at least in the beggining. Eventually, they will want to improve their experience and buy the hd, suscribe to Live! etc, etc, etc.

So they do that to atack a new market, a market who evnetually will become like us, gamers.

And then the PS3 arrives, MS drops the prices, and the (now) gamer will prefer to invest on upgrading his core system... because he is now into it.

And the other causal gamer will choose again the cheaper system for $199... and the cycle continues...

i agree i truly do belive that the 360 will be the overall better than the ps3 what do you think?

@Zaratustra. You're so right.

ok why the hell are they putting $99.99 U.S./€99.99/£69.99 price tag on the hard disk. i mean come on its only 20GIG I can get at least 200 GIG for that price. Sure ill buy one but what about the peope who dont have that much cash.

@BLUEBLASTER
Regarding the hard disk of 20 gig for $99,99. It's not that simple. It seems to be a special disk. 2.5" and with some special features. The disk has all kinds of special adaptations to collect little sound and doesn't need cooling . Also the housing and connector are different.

y r u complainig about a 20GB HDD,the xbox had a 8GB and it never ran out,trust me because i bought an xbox on the launch and i have about 70games,the space on tht thing never runs out

this sucks

ATTENTION!!!!!

I just got off the phone with Gamestop in Hackensack, NJ where I preordered my Xbox360. The girl said if you are in the FIRST SHIPMENT (which I am WOO HOOO) you will have the opition to buy the $399.99 version, if you want the $299.99 version you must wait an extra week. SHE ALSO SAID AND I QUOTE!!! "The Premium Edition Xbox360 will be fully backwards compatibly. The Standard Xbox360 WILL NOT!!!"

Was anyone else told this?

November seems so far away lol

Lets just hope that a price drop is VERY IMMINENT and 100% true.

I phoned the store were i pre-orderd and these @!*%ers did not know shit about the 2 version of the xbox 360 yet. I WANT MY XVOX 360 O' AND @!*% THA PLAYSTAION 3 , all you people that are complaining about the price well don't it's a good deal. just wait for the ps3 price people say that it will be about $475 for the console and one controler and that's it and they will charge for the on-line service so the 360 looks like the better deal. 360 all the way.

Ok this is gonna sound purty wierd but, i was raised in the Nintendo Mario time your jumps hit a koopa world, i never have owned an xbox but i have questions about the Live service,

In the 400 dolla package is one of those cords used to hook up your 360 to Live?

YALL KOW WHAT IM JUST GOING TO SUCK IT UP AND PAY THE DAMN $400.00

wah fine dont answer me question before young tazz

yeah that cable is ethernet cable that plugs in your broadband connect, sorry if you have dialup.

I love Xbox and Microsoft so much. I can't believe that news and I was dissapport about price. Xbox 360 mush standard harddrive and wireless controllers. This really suck. I can't pay extra adding things. Microsoft is stupid and worst now than before. They should all fire people and hire new officer work at new Microsoft. That too much price. Xbox 360 should include with harddrive, remote, wirelss controller, headset, etcs with one sku $ 249 or 299 at launch. I praying not this news is true. They are dumb idea and stink!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Thank you

the premium package is what i wanted and more. If I had a choice between this and the 299 package everyone expected i'd gladly pay for this, and I think it's smart for Microsoft to sell a couple cheaper bundles ( the premium is actually the standard package) for single working parents and working kids to still get a system and upgrade later! Some of ya'll will bitch about anything, y don't u start saving now and go get u a ps3 when it comes out next christmas and stop crying like bi@#he$

np fingers but about the price, you cant possiblely think that it should cost 250, we all new this was coming, i saw a 350 dollar price tag, but i guess i want to dload demos and i want the HD cables since i have a sony wega hdt tv, lol sony, but owell im in love with the posibilities on xbox live.

i aint gonan buy a game at launch im just getting gamefly, what u guys doing?

needthebox i like the way you think

ok this is how i see it, The premium package is for the people that want action right away notice all of the accessories that came with it "ethernet Cable" and the "wireless headset" you get those right out of the box all u need now is a 12 month subscription to the live and a game or two and your set!!

(notice how great it is without even mentioning hard drive"

will you guys stop crying about the price. the 360 has a custom-designed IBM powerPC-based CPU with three symmetrical cores running at 3.2 GHz each; Tow hardware threads per core and six hardware threads total, a 500 MHz custom-designed graphics processor, and 512 MB of memory.

hooga jigga wha?

the original box cost nearly $400 to make, so I can understand M$ not wanting to subsidize billions of dollars a second time around(in fact they will probably be glad when they can discontinue the financial albatross for ever),

however since the unit will use DVD9 instead of HDDVD OR BLUE RAY, the inclusion of a standard hard drive would have kept the playing field more even with the PS3 when it hits the market,.. developers could have used it to stream content and pack more content into the games. now most developers will be limiting the potential of their games because they'll want to sell games to the broadest market.(but with 512k you'll hardly notice)

$400 is what was expected prior to E3, before premature leaks encouraged the expectation of a $300 price point for everything, (even though it's ridiculous for any company to provide the tech that the X360 will contain for a mere $300 at launch)

and M$ allowed the perception to persist that the box would be $300 for everything,..

this sort of move divides the market and confuses the customer because it conflicts with much of the initial info that was publicized about the 360 during E3. things would have worked out better for M$ if they had simply kept their mouths shut (like Sony is doing now) rather than presenting one expectation, but actually providing another.

on the positive side it does allow people with limited funds to ease into the box, yet on the otherhand deprives hardcore gamers and developers the option of using the HD for games utilizing greater content and streaming options(like Bethesdas rph)

I also suspect that M$ will begin using XBL to sell game levels (episodic content) directly from the servers, expect to hear more about this by mid 2006 if not before. It's a fact that M$ is currently supporting telephone titan SBC to invest in new internet technology that will enable SBC tol provide much speedier connections,an internet phone service, and cable tv. (look out Time Warner)

M$ has also contracted with a company to sell it's more popular pc games (like AGE OF EMPIRES) over the web, (but you can only play while connected).

the cost of the original xbox was so heavily subsidized by M$ it should have called it " videogame welfare"(and issued "gamestamps"). now M$ seems to be making the decision to squeeze some ducketts out of it's newest entry in the next gen console market so ultimately who can blame them. so just buy one, save your tips, and get an HD later.

Can anyone tell me what kind of audio connection comes with the "works"

Nevermind. I found an old discussion at TeamXbox... its a toslink optical cable.

Okay guys awesome thread at TeamXbox.com

Be sure to read it and click the links!!! The silver club of Xbox Live also comes with a Free 30 Day Trial!!!

http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?t=367280

Edit:

The silver package of Xbox Live comes with a FREE 30 DAY TRIAL OF XBOX LIVE GOLD!!!!

So if you buy the Premium Package or Core package you're able to kick some ass on Live for 30 DAYS FREE!!!

Suck it SONY!

Let me say that the intial news and pricing of the 360 threw everyone into a frenzy. You have to say though MS is making an effort in every which way and form to make sure US the consumer is happy with whichever version of 360 we purchase come launch time. I mean if it is true that the games are $49.99 hell that alone is freakin steal. I know I blew up in a few of my earlier posts so I apologize to you my fellow Xbox Freaks. Just know as that PS3 comes closer to launching that MS is going to shove it up Sony's ass and lower the price of system and accessories to what will be the #1 Gaming System in the console market. Patience my friends, this is just the start. How sick Half-Life 2 & Far Cry on my Xbox 360 with my HD-TV with 5.1 Dolby Digital Surround Sound...J. Allard your still a genius in my BOOK!!!

What does everyone else think?

far cry and halflife2,... affirmative!!

Just you wait til the ps3 comes out, you will see MS stars to drop the price. Maybe $299 for the premium, $199 for the core system. So everything will be alright. Either you want to get this now or wait until the price drop. I think MS doing this intentionally, so that they can compete with the ps3. I think Sony is playing right into MS trap. I will say this again, as soon as the Sony PS3 comes out, MS will slap Sony in the face with a price drop. You see, after all, I don't think it's a bad move by MS. They may have made some consumers very angry now about this HD thing, but in a long run it's going to be good for everybody.

Ill be getting the 399 for shore, im still confused on XBL how is it going to transfer over? I mean I dont quite understand can someone please explain im not losing live now. that I have it.

Posted 8/19/2005I
ll be getting the 399 for shore, im still confused on XBL how is it going to transfer over? I mean I dont quite understand can someone please explain im not losing live now. that I have it.

If you still have xbox live membership now, you won't lose that. I heard that all you need to do is log in your old gametage and your personal info into the new machine, you're ready to go.

If you have an xbox live accout, your x360 will recognize the account when you connect it. ..yes,...it's that simple.(according to robbie back, j allared, and steve balmer)

*premium is the only way to go. getting the core system and buying each peripherals piece by piece is like buying all your furniture from a "rent-to-own" store.

when the original xbox was released the bungie bundle was $400, (halo, a couple of controllers, the dvd remote, and some game called mad dash or wacked or something like that)

the premium box will still be cheaper than the ps3, and ps3 still won't have a uniform online solution that will match XBL. when the ps2 released their hard drive, it was virtually useless, I mean how often have you heard of downloadable content or games that let you play ripped music on the ps2.

if there is a market adoption rate of at least %60 out of say 5-7 million users, you'll see more developers add more harddrive related features to thier games plus a heap of downloadable content. and we'll be previewing whole game levels like you do now off the web for pc games. cool.

Thanks guys much appreciated, well im up to 40 dollars saved only oh say...460-40=420$....420$ dollars left till i can get my 360, im only buying a game no second controller for awhile.

kool man what games you guys geting cus im getting gamefly for a while, i wanna start a call of duty or Ghost recon clan!!!

Getting Ghost and CD2, gamertag: DJNation10 what's yours!!! We should start and Xbox365 clan, sick!

yeah that would be badass but i need to get a name dont have one yet.

My first game will more then likley be CD2, I love playing the first one on line (very laggy) but the guys arent jackasses like on H2

$400 is a drop in the bucket compared to the fun that we will have with this machine.... im game ,and gamefly is the way to go!!!

i thought that the hard drive would be standard :(, oh well i guess ill be forking over $400

does anyone know if we will have to get the new network adaptar or it the old game adaptar will work?

No the new network adaptar is USB 2.0

although its expensiver I think I might just wait for the ps3 because its suppoed to have twice the graphics

it would be a great deal if the games were $50 cause if they were then i would jump all over it

All the ps3 stuff is CGI.

For all those who are complaining about the 360 that is selling for 399.99, when Microsoft brought out the 360 at E3 2005 in May, yes they said that it was going to come with the HDD, and the wireless controller, they didn't say anything about price. So if you think about it and quit bitchin, you are actually getting more than what they said.

the 400$ deal is great im getting it

I have a HD ready tv . What else would I need to receive full graphics from my future 360?

I am a little coonfused. The thing I dont get is why is there a hard drive and a memory unit? Cant you save your games to the hard drive? What is the main purpose of the hard drive and memory unit?

Also from my last post I just wanted to add this. If I was in the middle of a game and I completed a level in say Call of Duty 2 would I save my game to the memory unit or the hard drive? Thats what I dont get.

I was also wondering if you could play all of the regular xbox games on the xbox 360.

only best selling ones i think

To all the price complainers: You're idiots. Look at the prices and what you got/get with each console at launch.

Xbox - $300:
Console
- CPU: Pentium III (733MHz, 128MB Cache)
- GPU: Nvidia NV2A (233MHz clock, 64 MB memory)
- Memory: 64MB SDRAM (200MHz)
- DVD Drive: Thompson P.O.S. (That should be the actual item name)
- HDD: 10GB
Ugly, Big, P.O.S. Controller
Basic A/V Cord
Power Cord

Xbox 360 Premium - $400:
Console
- CPU: (times three) Custom IBM PowerPC (3.2GHz, 1MB Cache)... and there's 2 threads per core so effectively you have 6 processors.
- GPU: Custom ATI GPU (500MHz clock, 10MB memory... mooches off the system memory)
- Memory: 512MB GDDR3 RAM (700MHz)
- DVD Drive: Something alot better than a Thompson-type drive. I think they learned they're lesson when using shitty parts. (See all Xbox versions 1.0)
- HDD: 20GB
- USB ports: Three USB 2.0 ports
Wireless Controller w/ built in Communicator
Xbox Headset
Remote
HD A/V Cord
Power Cord (Xbox 360 exclusive... not that basic universal one on Xbox)
Xbox Live Membership
Faceplate(s)

Things you would need to get for the Xbox to get close to matching the Xbox 360 accessory-wise: S Controller ($30), Headset/Communicator/XBL 12-Month Sub. ($70), Remote ($30), S-Video A/V Pack ($20)... total = $150.

I didn't even mention getting another 10GB HDD or a new $100+ DVD drive (and/or repair costs) after the Thompson failed.

So you 13+ times more processing power, a wicked sweet graphics card, endless accessory features for (guesstimate) $150 - $200 less. This is all when stuff is so much more expensive now days.

WTF are you all bitching about exactly? I'm seriously lost. I would have expected something like this to cost alot more.

*NOTE*: Yes, I know some people like the big hunky controllers. If you're one of them knock off $30. And I know some Thompson drive using Xbox's still function but not many, so my $100+ for the drive stands in most cases.

They are saying a december launch date but I think we may see a launch date in November

oh my god I can not wait eney longer for xbox 360 coming out I hope I get the $400

Yeah...... not going to be a waste of money. Every penny will be worth it!

Heh, i just won one of these, i think i'll ebay it at release, and buy a ps3.

Can the Xbox 360 play Xbox games?

Can the Xbox 360 play Xbox games?

I wish they would drop the prices on the Xbox360 games back down to the original $49.99

can you play the old xbox games on it?

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Im sorry for that that was clukie my pet chiken. But dont get made knives and fish dont solve any thing. bring your tent and seep in my bottle mrs. jeanie for my first wish i wont a donky so clukie can do the shag with him. no pigs cant eat pork skins they might eat there moma.now to the point wich is beter xbox 360 or ps3?

duh pigs are sexy to . and who cares about clukie .my hippo henryeta can fill up a buket with milk with her left ughter and what.and ps3 is better it has better graphices

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This is horrible. I cant find any website or store that will sell me just the Premium package. They're either sold out, or have extras. Have you seen gamestop, why would you pay $2,000.

Does anyone know any stores that are selling the premium system at $400. Id really like to know.

the thing is that the hardware that are used in this damn monster machine are to expensive to buy for pc isnt that rocking

It better Be able to talk or cook my food for all that money! LOL!!!

xbox 360 better wash my drawls for all that bread! LOVL (laugh out very loud)

xbox sucks go PS3 all the way

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