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Xbox 360 in Japan: Who Cares? |
by UtahSaint 7/12/2005 |
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Japanese news agency C-News are suggesting that Japanese consumers/gamers are not interested in Xbox 360 with just 2% of respondents saying Xbox 360 would be their future console of choice. Now we don't want to start a firestorm, but this report is hot on the heels of stinging criticism from a UN special rapporteur claiming "Discrimination in Japan is deep and profound". Does this mean no western developer/manufacturer has a chance in Japan? We fear so.
Racisim in Japan: Report Xbox 360 in Japan: No Chance
1,000 Japanese consumers aged between 10 and 59 were questioned for the survey, with 60 per cent choosing the PlayStation 3 as the next-gen system they're most interested in, followed by the Nintendo Revolution on 8 per cent and the X360 on just 2 per cent.
The poor showing for the Revolution is perhaps understandable, given that Nintendo has released only sketchy outline details regarding the console so far - but the figure for the Xbox 360 will come as a disappointment to Microsoft, which has focused heavily on the Japanese market in recent months.
Respondents cited the Sony brand, along with a perception that the PS3 will have the widest range of software and a technological edge over its rivals, as the key reasons for picking the PS3 over the other systems.
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Nintendo's plans are about as sketchy as North Korea's nuclear plans, and yet still they beat Xbox 360... How dumb is that?
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Axis of Evil
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I don't know how they could say the PS3 will have a wider selection of games. I could understand that for the original xbox, but not the 360.
These people would buy the PS3 even if it were inferior just out of spite.
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Nabu the Wise
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Not suprizing.
Still, if it's out early enough and has good enough games, I suspect more than 2% of Japanese gamers will buy it even though they're not planning on doing so now. Unless the Xbox 360 has quality control issues in Japan, I bet some gamers will buy themselves one to tide themselves over until the PS3 comes out.
I'm sure that the Xbox360 will not convince anyone in Japan to not buy a PS3 or Revolution, but it might convince them that it's worth buying an additional system (particularly if it has a year lead.)
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They're a different people ya'll, thier entertainment industry has a completely different skin than ours, which is why japanese "love" games wouldnt and dont sell over here. To us its crap, who needs a "love" game? To them its the equivalent of Halo. And so is all the other wierd stuff they love, so naturally an american machine wont get much love. I think Micro is wasting thier time, just make the stuff they like for them and keep most of it over there, problem solved.
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fat_bunnies
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Based on the games alone i won't buy an 360 at launch. Even looking into the future there's nothing that realy excites. Gears of War is the only game that has me a little bit pumped but even there I have my doubts. I'll wait for a price drop. An did M$ realy expect to make a big impact on the Japenese market, this cycle alone should have told them that there's very little hope there.
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NYROCKY
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Japan Market suck! XBOX 360 can sucess increase North America, European, Outside Asia market than Japan. I like some Japan game. North America and European are biggest market for XBOX 360 in the future.
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gatekeeper
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I SAID IT ONCE AND I'LL SAY IT AGINE THEY WILL NOT BUY ARE GAMEING SYSTEM IT DOSE NOT MATTER IF WE GET THIS SYSTEM OUT FRIST THEY DON'T WANT TO LOSE THE CONSOLE WAR'S TO AMERICA SO THEY WILL BUY PS3 AS LONG AS CAN. SO WE DON'T NEED THEM!~ THEY DON'T BUY ANYTHING FROM US AND THERE MAKEING A JOKE OF THE FREE TRADE MARKIT ALL THE DUM A$$'S THAT BUY SONY AND ANYTHING ELS FROM JAPAN LIKE THERE CAR'S , TV'S & STEREO NEED TO NO WERE ALL OF THERE MONEYIS GOING. THERE MONEY IS GOING TO JAPAN/CHINA COME ON PEOPLE US AMERICAN NEED TO BUY AMERICAN OR IT WILL BE ALL OVER SOON.
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EDP
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Ok, Ber2 is gonna be all over this in a few seconds... HIT THE DECK! (flames of intollarable hatered fly everywhere)
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grandaddygame
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The Sony name is a flagship brand for the japanese, ... and it's one of the last few dominating products coming out of japan .(if you don't count Honda)
Especially as cheaper and higher quality home electronics are now made in Korea and China.
The japanese are not so much "dumb, stupid, or snobbish"...as they are a very nationalistic people who take great pride in the dwindling consumer electronic lead that they've enjoyed for so many years.
It really wouldn't matter if the x360 had 25 "Halo" quality titles and 10 "Triple AAA" Tecmo titles (all with big jiggly brested women). the M$ brand would still collect dust on store shelves in japan. (for a little while anyway)
M$ poses a threat to the dominance that the Japanese have enjoyed for years. to support it would be like treason for them, only a true revolutionary would support it (like Itagaki-San), and I'm afraid they don't have too many of those in japan. (just look at the hive mind mentality in their Manga/Anime',.. seen one, seen em all)
However,.. ONE MONKEY DON'T STOP NO SHOW (as PT Barnum once said),.. mere Polls and popularity contests won't halt the progress of the x360, the box will still do well. (eslewhere)
Mine is preordered and I'm literally "chomping at the bit" to get my hands on Kameo, Full Auto, Demonik, Oblivion, Condemned and many others, ....don't know where I'll get the money but "If I preorder them,. ..they will come".
Just got done watching an "indepth" E3 dvd, and I'm more excited than ever, Holiday 2005 can't come soon enough, (with or without the Japanese)
let M$ worry about Japan. because I won't.
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grandaddygame
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anaylists and polls, ..
They said Bush would never be elected, and he's in his 2nd term.
They said the "The Passion Of Christ" wouldn't make any money in theaters, and it was a Huge BlockBuster.
They said Rap would be dead in 2 years, ..that was more than 20 years ago and it's grabbed a monster share of the worldwide market.
I'll be personally conducting my own poll this Holiday Season, ...
with my WALLET!
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Japen is a tuff market to fet into. Sony has a string hold. But remember, The first xbox did not bold well b/c of the lack of games and attensio Microsoft gave them. This is why the polls are poor for the 360. They are looking at what the Xbox did, nothing for them. But now Microsoft is given them more love and attension. Once 360 comes out and they see the games and what it can do, they will buy it. Not as much as Sony's system, but more then 2%. Rome was not built in a day. Microsoft has a long road ahead of them with this market. Maybe, if they play their cards right, by the 3rd or 4th system, Microsoft will have a good market in Japan. They just need to focus on building a fan base in Japan, which they did not do for the Xbox. This will not cause Microsoft to drop out though. They wil make money else where. Just give them time. That and all of Japan will be missing out on a great system, shame on them.
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outtice
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of course jappan will go with ps3 its thiers but think about it they think there system is going to dominate xbox 360 but there wrong. ps3 is trying to do so much but there not thinking about the price they just dropped the built in router whats going to be next
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MS said they're going to sell 11mil consoles the first year riiiight...
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quietman69
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Come on, if the PS3 was a rock with stick figures, they would still say it was better that teh X360 More power and better graphics, M4 should really look ate where its putting its effort. Focus on china & korea
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EDS factor
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Ok seriously guys, first of all, I agree, there is no way in the world that the xbox360 will be a huge hit in Japan...........BECAUSE SONY IS FROM OVER THERE AND THE XBOX360 IS FROM OVER HERE. I do look forward to the event and all that, only because they might give away more information on the product. I myself am most probably(98-99%) sure Ill get the Xbox360 over the ps3 because of the long year wait, the price, and difference in the graphics and specs between the two systems and such probably wont make much of a difference between the 2 consoles. Also, I think sony might be taking the console wars not as seriously as microsoft(I talked to a rep. of sony resently, that was my impression of him and the company). Also I got the playstation and playstation2, so I want to switch it up to see what Microsoft has to offer. And now that I think about it, the graphics for the xbox right now are better than the sony ps2, but I still dont regret buying the ps2.....but what are your opinions of the upcoming systems(NO NINTENDO REVOLUTION PLEASE)
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CRAZY GAMER
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We should BOYCOT the ps3 just like those japs are doing to the xbox 360 in japan. All i have to say is they can keep their peace of shit playstation 3 over their with the steamd rice lovers!! U.S.A. #1
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<--------------------Mouth left wide open from Crazy Gamer's comments.......then he falls on the floor laughing so hard that it hurts
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Ok, MS has hired plenty of japanese programming houses including one headed by the former head designers of the Final Fantasy series, numerous japan-centric progamming houses as well. So that does prove that regardless of what goes on the American machine even if very specific japanese-esc titles will be present,little or no attention will come of the japanese market. Oh yes my friends they snub everthing American with purpose, so please save the "PROUD PEOPLE" crap for someone other than me. I by no means am saying we should boycott them, I will buy the PS3 as well as the 360 so i can play everything that both have to offer because i love games, american and japanese alike. However please realize that this will never be recipricated by the japanese. proud my ass, in america we call the purposefull snubbing of anyone different than us racism and u can take that that to bank, and deposit it as a rude awakening.
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fat_bunnies
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crazy gamer jap is and offenisive term. it's kind of like saying the n word.
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grandaddygame
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You caN REject my theory about japanese nationalistic pride (IFyou were referring to my earlier post)psycomantis9m, which is your perrogative to do so, ... I still stand by my comments. but I appreciate all opinions and ideas (because that's why we come here is to share those ideas right?)
and to other xbox fans I would implore you to refrain from base racist remarks and comments because it never prospers anyone in the long run. (I mean, who among you would become he next hitler?)
like a lot of members on this site, I have been enthralled by the ingenious story telling by japanese anime authors from Ogre hunter to Appleseed, and have enjoyed the addictive gameplay from the birth of video games like sonic and mario brothers,... but the competition has levelled up.
so the crown is now up for grabs. (the japanese have to accept that)
japan will not always be obstinate to the intrusion of western video game influences, as even now external forces such as western rap and rock are stamping their imprint across their nation. (hollywood already has)
In the end, the ultimate respect from the japanese will be "Earned" and not taken(like candy from a baby.) peace.
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crazygamer is a fag
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a 1,000 people is not good for how many people in japan will buy the xbox 360 maybe if you ask a million then you can see how good it will do in japan i bet if you ask a million their would be a bet % of people owe like the xbox 360 becuase my friend that lives in japan and 10 of his friends that live in japan are buying the xbox 360 they where not any of the people owe where asked
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Fact is, doesn't matter how many triple A titles come out for the x360 in Japan, I dont think they will ever buy into the console, at least, not with PS3 on the horizon. It really blows, but its the truth, apparently Japenese gamers want nothing to do with western games or hardware, but microsoft still makes a @$% load of money in Japan from windows and always will, so when the x360 fails in Japan just remember those Japs still buy our American software for pc's, and that is something SONY can only dream of!
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As far as I am concerned, Japan is not really a big market. MS will succeed in other parts of the world
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who cares about japan, their economy is weaker by the year, Sony sold more consoles in north america than in japan , u go figure that one out...i could careless about what japanese thing about games cus their games are long becoming stale and repetitious, same old same old, sequels after sequels...they need to innovate like in the 8 to 32 bit era......MS should spoil us north america and europe because without those 2 continants the xbox was dead...in japan it was already killed before it launched...thank god most rpg and other games made in japan for the xbox360 will be avail to us in north america and europe.....you can take a cow to the river but you cant force it to drink, that exactly how i look at japanese, they have not necessarily racism for a fact but xenophobia (fear of foreigners that lead to hatred and racism)....maybe they havent forgiven the amrican for ww2.....who cares anyways right?!
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menace2008
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Crazygamer is a fag, this is America, you know freedom of speech. Also, you started this childish war anyway, when crazygamer said japs you said, and I quote " USA sucks, all you U.S.A sucks ass and can suck my dick " now I as a US citizen took a bit of offense to that, so don't talk to me about right and wrong untill you right yourself, have a wonderful day :)
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One thing you should know about japan is that more than 80% of their population own a videogame system, that means 80% of japan's population play videogames... If MS cannot grab a piece and i mean a BIG piece of that HUGE pie, they'll never accomplish what they're trying to do(or in other words, they'll never be #1). So for you guys to say that the japanese market doesnt really matter is just plain stupid...I mean MS's been trying all they can to land a foot on japan since the xbox came out.
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I have only one thing to say, I agree 100% with menace2008 and if I saw a japanese or any other foreign dude walking down the street bashing America, I wouldnt beat their ass because there would be 50 other people already kicking the living shit out of the mother @!*%er. But if someone like Crazygamer is a fag came down my street talking that shit, I would kick his @!*%ing head in. So please people dont talk about the U.S. it really pisses me off, and what the @!*% is so bad about the word "Jap" please explain that to me, maybe Ill be more kind while bashing the shit out of your face. So what is the meaning of the word that is so bad?
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japaneseman1000
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i am crazy gamer is a fags half brother i am from japan let me start i am not a mean person i like avery body first EDS factor if you think calling my people jap is not wrong what is so wrong then about somebody say @!*% are cracker to you and menace 2008 japan has freedom of speech to becuase i live their alot they have alot of freedom you should not be offended by what he tould you becuase i am offened about what you said about my race and japanese people are not racist becuase when i am in japan they always talk about the US good so dont say what you think inless you have been to japan japanese people respact everybody godbless everybody.
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the thing that is cut out is the n word look you should not hate us over a @!*%ing video game system look dont make video games your live dont make them where you have to be racist towards other people thats not right in the bible you are suposed to love everybody. you should not dislike somebody just because how they look thats just wrong i mean that is low realy low.
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japaneseman100
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and belive Me EDS factor you do not want to say you would be kicking his head in becuase if you saw him you better have a bunch of people becuase he carries i mean he would probely @!*% you up whith out the gun
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japaneseman100
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and a minority group in japan would be like somebody from other parts of asia not white people belive me their are alot of koreans their like mexicans hear now i dont hate them but their are alot
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wtf dude japs whts wrong with saying japs i bet ur just saying that stuff because you no were right
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Mad Gamer 2
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Ber, I understand your point, but remember Sega couldnt do crap over there and they where a Japanese based company. But the thing that killed them was their dwindling support for their questionable machines. Now about that, anyone who owned a Dreamcast knows that Sega did just about everything right, but erm , for some reason nobody cared. Why I say that ? Well, the Ps2 loomed over them like a huge black cloud over a wonderful picnic because regardless of history with bad systems(the Sega CD) and horrendous add-ons(the 32x) I thought that the Dreamcast was their saving grace... First and foremost, it was the only machine(at the time) that could possibly be compared to the Ps2's over-hyped power. Because when it was all said and done, Grandia 2 looked exactly the same as it did on the DC, however the Ps2's murky colors made it look like it needed color guard detergent. Dead Or Alive 2 was another good example, 4X4 Evolution, and several other titles where basically better . But everyone looked at the poly pushing power of the Ps2, and a handful of polys where enough to sway gamers decision to seemingly super superior console. That and 3rd party support for a system that wasn't even out killed the DC before its time. Because lets face it, the developers where doing the same thing that the Sony fanboys where doing...waiting for Sony. I think that if Sega released the DC at the time of the Ps2 then it would be sorta different(besides a cluttered market). So I don't care if Japan wants to be that way, its their problem and they will be missing something kool for over-rated teraflops. I just think that dating simulators suck.
P.S. What about the Japanese complaints about the first XBox ? Big controllers, Big machine...Isn't that what's Sony's doing this time around !?
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CH405
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it doest matter wut ms is trying to do in japan they aint gonna get shit. if xbox wuz a japanese console everybody in japan would like it and the U.S. would still like it cause all us americans care about is if we get to play
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mustafar_man
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As a spectator in this Japan/American debate (as I am Canadian), I would agree that the XBOX kicks ass compared to Sony Playstation and Nintendo.
I must admit that this is the most humorous thread that I have seen in a long time. I can picture it now in the media, "Console debate leads to racism". Come on people, the Japanese are like the Americans after the Japanese lost WW2. Both your countries are fighting shoulder to shoulder in a war of social liberaterianism. A lot better then the crap my home country is doing (aka - nothing).
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i do think the xbox 360 will be very good. i allready got the money to buy it. japs hate xbox systems. every body knows that xbox is better than ps2 and the same thing will happen with next gen consoles. i mean seriously do you think the next nintendo will be better than xbox 360 YEAH RIGHT. the xbox is better than gamecube and the xbox 360 will be better than nintendo revolution. any comments write
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Grendel
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Wow, has this ever been fun reading the Racist portion of the website.
Japan is a bigger market then 1000 people warrants an answer to. Also remember that the poll was put together by *gasp* a pro Sony group, and was then submitted to C-News to do just what it is doing. Make us all be idiots debating the possibilities.
Its as simple as this... MS will have a hard time cracking the Japanese market, just because Japan sees itself (and rightly so) as technologically ahead of the rest of the world. PS2 won not only on its technical prowess, but the promise of technical advancements in the future. Why would you buy something like the XBOX when your own country (which doesn't have to import it and pay the difference) is producing a product that is set to be amazing?
But everyone is counting out the Revolution way ahead of its release. I'm sorry, but the nostalgia factor alone will make it one of the more sought after items. Especially since the classic games will be free right out of the blocks, so that means you can buy the console, take it home, and then start playing the classics. If you think that Nintendo will really only sell 18 million consoles, then you aren't aware of the whole nostalgic way that the GBA has marketed itself with the classics.
And if anybody here thinks that there is this whole anti-America thing really exists in Japan, you have never been to downtown Tokyo. Japan and America are more alike than you are all really willing to admit.
Maybe that's why you think that you hate each other... you aren't too fond of yourselves.
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The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion HALO 3 Gears of War NBA 2006 2K6 The Godfather Dead Or Alive 4 Need for Speed Most Wanted
And the one i cant wait for the most (Second one Halo is first)
Final Fantasy XI
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Saying the word "jap" isnt racist at all. I use it on every website and never got bothered for saying it. Its simply short for saying "japanese." Why say the whole word when you can put it into 3 letters? And no, its not equivalent to saying "cracker" or "nygger."
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Thank you Forsaken77 you said it all. Everyone always wants to seem like a victim(Japanese) on this site, and you are right, I dont call japanese "Japs" but I know damn well being an African American, the word "Jap" doesnt even come close to the "n" and whoever thought it was is one dumbass mofo and I am insulted for japaneseman1000 saying so. I am a nice person to everyone so dont just go around comparing your abbreviated word to a word that is just plain hurtful and insulting. To show you how much so, if japaneseman1000 or anyone else called me that on the street, I would kick that living s*** out of them. Lastly japaneseman1000 you think that you and your asian friends could beat me up....I beg to differ. They got cong fuu but I have the art of whoop-ass. Over and Out. Peace
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Remember kids. Fighting is bad. Let's love each other like good lil internet people. :grin
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Forsaken77- You're an idiot
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EDS factor- You're a stupid @!*%ing piece of shit. I bet you're some stupid white boy that thinks he's all hot shit. I would stomp your @!*%ing face into the ground if i ever met you. Take your faggot Xbox and shove it up your ass
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Real funny afda become an actual member you prick and actually I am an African American you dumbass. So take those words and shove them b*****
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All europens buyers should boycott the X360 seeing that Microsoft are going to make the US markets has enough consoles by releasing the product on the 22nd November, from a business and marketing prospective I would be worried about pissing offing the non US buyers who also want the consoles for christmas. If consoles meant for the non US markets are diverted to the US markets I am Msoft can kiss goodbye to any success in Europe and I am sure Sony will learn from it and be much better prepared for the release of thier console.
Go Sony!
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xbox / xbox 360 sux to the max
looking forward to see it rot in japan and asia pacific market.
who needs another PC in a box :doh:
if ms wanna win ... got take over square, konami , koei , namco, sega 1st.
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stupid racist
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It is all about the game, not the machine. If Microsoft could aquire squaresoft and all the other Japanese game company, I think Sony won't stand a chance against it.
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nintendo and gamecube are crap and so is ps3
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360 owns
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and u japs canget fuked
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You know i live in okinawa japan and everything.And i look at the japanese market and stuff and i see this.MS is so influential in so many ways.But again to attack the pride of the gaming country.Its going to be hard.Just like when Toyota enters into nascar.Its something they will have trouble with because all the American companies have been doing it fo rso long that its just hard for them to even compete.But with time and persistents they will become greater.But one thing i did notice about people in japan was none of them knew that you could mod the 1 st xbox.Lemme tell you this, when my japanese friends saw this they about shit themselves.When i played mario and final fantasy 4 on my box.They about died.I could play any game they had ever played in one box.Now here comes the 360 and what do you think is gonna happen again.hmmm a ps2 emulator on 360??? i think so.But sony love to make their crap all neat and tight fit with little room for modding.hmm but the 360 is in a nice box that can be awesomely upgraded.And you know what i9349 Hal 3000 or whatever your name is i need another pc you freak! thats right so i can effin play everygame again.And to the japanese1000 guy.Nice job trying to settle things by talking about the bible but the you just kinda ruined it when you started attacking people.I read the bible and i dont rememeber Jesus beating up xbox fans.It might have been in John 3:16 iono i kinda skimmed that part.lemme know if it was.The truth is sony is asking way t much money for gamers to game! and it seems nintendo yes nintendo with all there effort will have an awesome system to beat your lil sister on.and a good price too.Nintendo i hope MS wins this but i want you second because you are coming back to gamers.MS leave sony in the dust.Keep giving us those PC titles and rig them for console.Because we all know what americans know best and that PC games.Give us Diablo or even WOW.Most importantly dont slak on our Halo.This game is a legend and sadly the Japanese havent heard of it too well.Lets show them why Master Chief will bitch slap sony.
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Originally Posted by: psychomantis9m Ok, MS has hired plenty of japanese programming houses including one headed by the former head designers of the Final Fantasy series, numerous japan-centric progamming houses as well. So that does prove that regardless of what goes on the American machine even if very specific japanese-esc titles will be present,little or no attention will come of the japanese market. Oh yes my friends they snub everthing American with purpose, so please save the "PROUD PEOPLE" crap for someone other than me. I by no means am saying we should boycott them, I will buy the PS3 as well as the 360 so i can play everything that both have to offer because i love games, american and japanese alike. However please realize that this will never be recipricated by the japanese. proud my ass, in america we call the purposefull snubbing of anyone different than us racism and u can take that that to bank, and deposit it as a rude awakening.
I agree with both u and crazy gamer , why u ask ? It's because first of all , yes Japan has shown me a lot in terms of games and different types of gameplay. The first RPG I've ever played was "legend of legaia ," the second was "Final Fantasy 7" and the third was "Legend of Dragoon." Let me tell u now that those games changed my life as a black kid and as an Artist. In spite of some of the japanese beliefs I know for fact that a lot of the japanese love America and the people that populate the continent. I say this because u can see it in everything they do from their ANIME to their clothing styles (just look at the way itagaki dresses). Most of their manga shows people that look obviously more white than japanese , lol. As far as what Crazy Gamer said, I agree with the part about him saying who cares about what the "Japanese" think about the 360 ! I care more about what europe thinks about the 360 mainly because the country is more than 30 times bigger than Japan's bitch-a$$ country anyways !!
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