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Sony Shoot Themselves in the Foot

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10/24/2006
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Sony, the idiotic, bureaucratic company that doesnt care for it's own customer base has shot itself in the foot - once again. With incredible intelligence, Sony brought multiple legal actions against Lik-Sang, the popular, Hong-Kong based company selling imported software and hardware...

Lik-Sang.com, the popular gaming retailer from Hong Kong, has today announced that it is forced to close down due to multiple legal actions brought against it by Sony Computer Entertainment Europe Limited and Sony Computer Entertainment Inc. Sony claimed that Lik-Sang infringed its trade marks, copyright and registered design rights by selling Sony PSP consoles from Asia to European customers, and have recently obtained a judgment in the High Court of London (England) rendering Lik-Sang's sales of PSP consoles unlawful.

As of today, Lik-Sang.com will not be in the position to accept any new orders and will cancel and refund all existing orders that have already been placed. Furthermore, Lik-Sang is working closely with banks and PayPal to refund any store credits held by the company, and the customer support department is taking care of any open transactions such as pending RMAs or repairs and shipping related matters. The staff of Lik-Sang will make sure that nobody will get hurt in the crossfire of this ordeal.

A Sony spokesperson declined to comment directly on the lawsuit against Lik-Sang, but recently went on to tell Gamesindustry.biz that "ultimately, we're trying to protect consumers from being sold hardware that does not conform to strict EU or UK consumer safety standards, due to voltage supply differences et cetera; is not - in PS3's case - backwards compatible with either PS1 or PS2 software; will not play European Blu-Ray movies or DVDs; and will not be covered by warranty".

Lik Sang strongly disagrees with Sony's opinion that their customers need this kind of protection and pointed out that PSP consoles shipped from Lik-Sang contained genuine Sony 100V-240V AC Adapters that carry CE and other safety marks and are compatible world wide. All PSP consoles were in conformity with all EU and UK consumer safety regulations.

Furthermore, Sony have failed to disclose to the London High Court that not only the world wide gaming community in more than 100 countries relied on Lik-Sang for their gaming needs, but also Sony Europe's very own top directors repeatedly got their Sony PSP hard or software imports in nicely packed Lik-Sang parcels with free Lik-Sang Mugs or Lik-Sang Badge Holders, starting just two days after Japan's official release, as early as 14th of December 2004 (more than nine months earlier than the legal action). The list of PSP related Sony Europe orders reads like the who's who of the videogames industry, and includes Ray Maguire (Managing Director, Sony Computer Entertainment Europe Ltd), Alan Duncan (UK Marketing Director, Sony Computer Entertainment Europe Ltd), Chris Sorrell (Creative Director, Sony Computer Entertainment Europe Ltd), Rob Parkin (Development Director, Sony Computer Entertainment Europe Limited), just to name a few.

"Today is Sony Europe victory about PSP, tomorrow is Sony Europe’s ongoing pressure about PlayStation 3. With this precedent set, next week could already be the stage for complaints from Sony America about the same thing, or from other console manufacturers about other consoles to other regions, or even from any publisher about any specific software title to any country they don’t see fit. It’s the beginning of the end... of the World as we know it", stated Pascal Clarysse, formerly known as the Marketing Manager of Lik-Sang.com.

"Blame it on Sony. That's the latest dark spot in their shameful track record as gaming industry leader. The Empire finally 'won', few dominating retailers from the UK probably will rejoice the news, but everybody else in the gaming world lost something today."

Defining Sony:
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1. An official of a bureaucracy.
2. An official who is rigidly devoted to the details of administrative procedure.

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Posted 10/24/2006
sony are assholes
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Mad Gamer 2
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Posted 10/25/2006
This is only the beginning of Sony's screw ups, I have a feeling eBay will be next. And then , quite possibly the world wont be able to buy a PS3(os SCEA or SCEU producs for that matter) from a rinky dink place.
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Ber
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Posted 10/25/2006
you idiots get upset because sony are taking care of their business... Lik-sang was making millions on sony products w/o sony's permission and not giving 1 cent to sony(which i bet yall, this all comes down to that).

Why did Immersion sued sony? I'll tell you... Apparently sony was using Immersion products(w/e it may be) w/o Immersion concept and giving them(immersion) not 1 cent of the profit.

Only problem according to yall, Sony are assholes for doing basically what Lik-sang was doing(explained above) and getting sued for it(by Immersion), and they're even "more" assholes for suing Lik-sang on a similar law suit... I mean you guys are just looking for garbage to throw at sony. Only thing is it doesnt work. You can go around the net about right now and see all the great pics and comments from each and every single very one sites that used to trash them not too long ago.

I even see some comments here that surprise me sometimes lol. So stfu x360 is about to be "Dreamcasted" ;). I told yall a long time ago.

Too many Idiots in this website.
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chio
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Posted 10/25/2006
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Too many Idiots in this website.
I resemble that remark!

But I agree, I don't see how it really changes whether or not 360 or PS3 is the better system. It's just business. You'd better believe MS would sue an unauthorized distributor.
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Posted 10/25/2006
Chio, its i resent that remark not resemble....wow u shot ur self in the foot there mate
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Posted 10/25/2006
I think it is funny. Sony has tried and tried to shut them down since the PS1 days. Finally they were able to do it, it is a big hit for all importers who think all games should be in all regions or get left out of the mix altogether. This is another way Sony is showing that they care only for two things, MONEY and CONTROL. They like all large companies want to own everything, but consumers will only take soo much before we fight back and stop, oh wait, that is why Sony is hurting finacially already, we have already started. Sony loss of sales is why we have the Blue-Ray/HD-DVD problem and why they must get the PS3 selling, to try and force a winner in that war. Sony has lied several times in the last couple of months and they were easy to see they were doing it. Now even some of their loyal customers are now questioning their motives and if they should support them anymore.

I say, don't buy a PS3 or any Sony product till they start putting consumers higher up in their plans. If the Blue-Ray fails, the PS3 will get ever more expensive, go by a 360 or Wii.
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chio
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Chio, its i resent that remark not resemble....wow u shot ur self in the foot there mate
I know - it's called a self-deprecating sense of humor.
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That is why i love my ds because it is region-free, nothin like buying a japanese game that none of my friends have like Jump Super Stars
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Ber,

You are a fool if you think that Sony isn't profiting. They still have to purchase the systems to sell to consumers. They are getting their money regardless.

idiot.
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MS, and all 360fans are the samething, 's@#t"
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Posted 10/29/2006
Hey Ber, why don't you come back to that Ninja Gaiden thread before you start calling people idiots. You were proven wrong in a big way and now you avoid it. Idiot.
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ber
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Posted 10/30/2006
Hey Nabeshin, bring that thread up again. I cant find it... Proven wrong? me? how?... You all used to talk so much shit about how NG is MS exclusive and shit. Now it isnt.

Also, as good as NG/black are, they together didnt break the 1mil mark on the xbox1... Thats what devs look at, I've told you all millions of times.

Just bring the thread up again. I wanna see how i was proved wrong...

ppl like mofoninja are my case to prove this is an idiots' nest right here. I mean read your piece of shit again. Do you think they'd make as much money like that as opposed to making a contract with lik-sang? Idiots I tell you. Also I dont know why you guys are so heated about this... This is PS brand and... I thought you guys didnt care about the PS brand?...
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riginally Posted by ber

Hey Nabeshin, bring that thread up again. I cant find it... Proven wrong? me? how?... You all used to talk so much shit about how NG is MS exclusive and shit. Now it isnt.

Also, as good as NG/black are, they together didnt break the 1mil mark on the xbox1... Thats what devs look at, I've told you all millions of times.

Just bring the thread up again. I wanna see how i was proved wrong...

ppl like mofoninja are my case to prove this is an idiots' nest right here. I mean read your piece of shit again. Do you think they'd make as much money like that as opposed to making a contract with lik-sang? Idiots I tell you. Also I dont know why you guys are so heated about this... This is PS brand and... I thought you guys didnt care about the PS brand?...
I thought that Lik-Sang sold more than Sony branded material. ANyway, Play-Asia could also be a target for Sony to make sure no one is getting a modded PS3, or anything else either. Play-Asia has some great stuff, but then again they have canceled taking pre-orders for PS3 units though. I just hope its enough to appease the "Deity's of Sony'
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You stated that Team Ninja were working "on the most powerfull system" and then you left a wink indicating that PS3 was the more powerfull one.You then proceeded to call everyone on this forum "A bunch of idiots" followed by generic overuse of "Y'all" that only hicks from the deep south use.You were also blind to the fact that it was not actually a sequel. but a remake of the original Ninja Gaiden Black on Xbox. Ninja Gaiden 2 is coming to Xbox360.

Itagaki himself stated that neither console is better, and both have their own strengths and weaknesses.

So in point form.

1) Ninja Gaiden Sigma on PS3 is NOT a Ninja Gaiden Sequel and is being worked on by Itagaki's Apprentice.
2) Ninja Gaiden 2 is coming to the Xbox 360
3) Neither Console, for the time Itagaki and Team Ninja have spent working on them are overall more powerfull
4) You always run away from topics only to come back when the topic disappears/is forgotten, so from now on I'll be sure to take a screenshot of all your stupid posts and claims and then make one big uber topic with them listed in point form to show just how much of a moron you are.

And don't give me that cowardly "I'm only t3 you're an idiot for arguing with a 13 year old" garbage again.
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Speaking of Sony I just saw the scariest most unappealing commercial ever. Its a f'in baby doll in a room with PS3, then the baby makes all sorts of weird noises. It was the creepiest commercial ever and made me want a PS3 even less. Someone in charge of marketing needs to be fired.
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Let's set this straight. The Playstation 3 fall's very short of being the world's most powerful gaming console. Yall said that xbox 360 had problem's just like the playstation 3...very wrong. I have done a huge amount of research and hand's on play with both console's, Sony did not activate the online service until the day before the ps3 luanch...Xbox 360 had been working on there online service months before it came out...and plus on the xbox 360 luanch last november, people were activating there online service before they played. Ps3's online experince is like a 1980's slow web page...that hardly let's you do anything. Yes the ps3 hardware can be updated through firmware download's, through there slow internet service, but*the playstation 3 was suppose to come out LAST YEAR and still is not finished, "wow that's really intelligent". PS3 does not come with any standerd HD cable's but ps3's high point is suppose to be Blu-ray hd, "why would ps3 go blu-ray without HD cables?......here's another punch in the stomach to PS3 "When you hook up there so called wireless controller's the ps3 console has to search and find the controller...with the Xbox 360 the console automatically finds the controller...and fast too....You think that at least sony would get the ps3's music right...but no very wrong. yes you can hook up your mp3 player but cant listen to it while you play the game, but on XBOX 360 you can listen to your on track's that you already put into the xbox 360. WOW...this is funny when you get on your ps3's internet and try to download something your stuck with a progress bar for 20 to 60 min's...also you cant play games while you download but guess what the XBOX 360 can and you can turn off you xbox and turn it back on and the download will automatically continue. to say it shortly the xbox 360's online experince beats ps3 10 to 1. Playstation 3's voice chat is under quality...the message system is like old cell text. REMEMBER there is a long history of Sony underpromising products that lead the world....look's like SONY IS FOCUSING MORE ON MONEY AND LESS ON YOU GAMER'S!!!
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Let's set this straight. The Playstation 3 fall's very short of being the world's most powerful gaming console. Yall said that xbox 360 had problem's just like the playstation 3...very wrong. I have done a huge amount of research and hand's on play with both console's, Sony did not activate the online service until the day before the ps3 luanch...Xbox 360 had been working on there online service months before it came out...and plus on the xbox 360 luanch last november, people were activating there online service before they played. Ps3's online experince is like a 1980's slow web page...that hardly let's you do anything. Yes the ps3 hardware can be updated through firmware download's, through there slow internet service, but*the playstation 3 was suppose to come out LAST YEAR and still is not finished, "wow that's really intelligent". PS3 does not come with any standerd HD cable's but ps3's high point is suppose to be Blu-ray hd, "why would ps3 go blu-ray without HD cables?......here's another punch in the stomach to PS3 "When you hook up there so called wireless controller's the ps3 console has to search and find the controller...with the Xbox 360 the console automatically finds the controller...and fast too....You think that at least sony would get the ps3's music right...but no very wrong. yes you can hook up your mp3 player but cant listen to it while you play the game, but on XBOX 360 you can listen to your on track's that you already put into the xbox 360. WOW...this is funny when you get on your ps3's internet and try to download something your stuck with a progress bar for 20 to 60 min's...also you cant play games while you download but guess what the XBOX 360 can and you can turn off you xbox and turn it back on and the download will automatically continue. to say it shortly the xbox 360's online experince beats ps3 10 to 1. Playstation 3's voice chat is under quality...the message system is like old cell text. REMEMBER there is a long history of Sony underpromising products that lead the world....look's like SONY IS FOCUSING MORE ON MONEY AND LESS ON YOU GAMER'S!!!
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Let's set this straight. The Playstation 3 fall's very short of being the world's most powerful gaming console. Yall said that xbox 360 had problem's just like the playstation 3...very wrong. I have done a huge amount of research and hand's on play with both console's, Sony did not activate the online service until the day before the ps3 luanch...Xbox 360 had been working on there online service months before it came out...and plus on the xbox 360 luanch last november, people were activating there online service before they played. Ps3's online experince is like a 1980's slow web page...that hardly let's you do anything. Yes the ps3 hardware can be updated through firmware download's, through there slow internet service, but*the playstation 3 was suppose to come out LAST YEAR and still is not finished, "wow that's really intelligent". PS3 does not come with any standerd HD cable's but ps3's high point is suppose to be Blu-ray hd, "why would ps3 go blu-ray without HD cables?......here's another punch in the stomach to PS3 "When you hook up there so called wireless controller's the ps3 console has to search and find the controller...with the Xbox 360 the console automatically finds the controller...and fast too....You think that at least sony would get the ps3's music right...but no very wrong. yes you can hook up your mp3 player but cant listen to it while you play the game, but on XBOX 360 you can listen to your on track's that you already put into the xbox 360. WOW...this is funny when you get on your ps3's internet and try to download something your stuck with a progress bar for 20 to 60 min's...also you cant play games while you download but guess what the XBOX 360 can and you can turn off you xbox and turn it back on and the download will automatically continue. to say it shortly the xbox 360's online experince beats ps3 10 to 1. Playstation 3's voice chat is under quality...the message system is like old cell text. REMEMBER there is a long history of Sony underpromising products that lead the world....look's like SONY IS FOCUSING MORE ON MONEY AND LESS ON YOU GAMER'S!!!
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Let's set this straight. The Playstation 3 fall's very short of being the world's most powerful gaming console. Yall said that xbox 360 had problem's just like the playstation 3...very wrong. I have done a huge amount of research and hand's on play with both console's, Sony did not activate the online service until the day before the ps3 luanch...Xbox 360 had been working on there online service months before it came out...and plus on the xbox 360 luanch last november, people were activating there online service before they played. Ps3's online experince is like a 1980's slow web page...that hardly let's you do anything. Yes the ps3 hardware can be updated through firmware download's, through there slow internet service, but*the playstation 3 was suppose to come out LAST YEAR and still is not finished, "wow that's really intelligent". PS3 does not come with any standerd HD cable's but ps3's high point is suppose to be Blu-ray hd, "why would ps3 go blu-ray without HD cables?......here's another punch in the stomach to PS3 "When you hook up there so called wireless controller's the ps3 console has to search and find the controller...with the Xbox 360 the console automatically finds the controller...and fast too....You think that at least sony would get the ps3's music right...but no very wrong. yes you can hook up your mp3 player but cant listen to it while you play the game, but on XBOX 360 you can listen to your on track's that you already put into the xbox 360. WOW...this is funny when you get on your ps3's internet and try to download something your stuck with a progress bar for 20 to 60 min's...also you cant play games while you download but guess what the XBOX 360 can and you can turn off you xbox and turn it back on and the download will automatically continue. to say it shortly the xbox 360's online experince beats ps3 10 to 1. Playstation 3's voice chat is under quality...the message system is like old cell text. REMEMBER there is a long history of Sony underpromising products that lead the world....look's like SONY IS FOCUSING MORE ON MONEY AND LESS ON YOU GAMER'S!!!
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